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#546 closed enhancement (fixed)

MSN mobile contacts not differentiated

Reported by: jasonspiro <jasonspiro4+bitlbee@…> Owned by: wilmer
Priority: wishlist Milestone:
Component: MSN Version: devel
Keywords: Cc:
IRC client+version: Client-independent Operating System: Public server
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Description

Please notify me when a buddy is connecting to MSN Messenger via a cellphone or PDA. This will encourage me not to start a conversation with them because it implies that they will type each message to me more slowly than usual.

This feature request is sort of like #462 (AIM Mobile Contacts Not Differentiated), but for MSN.

Some ideas follow on how to implement this.

User "doug" at irc.oftc.net #bitlbee told me that when an MSN buddy's presence notification client ID number is odd, not even, then the user is connecting to MSN from a cellphone or PDA.

Please use this client ID information to show me my buddies' mobile status in a prominent way. I would have suggested that Bitlbee simply set their away status, but:

Issue #1. I'm not sure it's appropriate that they appear as "away". Away should be reserved for the times when someone has actually set their presence state to Away.

Issue #2. Neither XChat 2.6.6 nor irssi 0.8.13 indicate away status when I open a /query window targeting a buddy. They only indicate the buddies' away status when I first message them. I have filed a feature request. Another option might be to append "-m" to the end of their nickname to show that they are Mobile, and to show that they are Mobile somewhere in their whois information.

So, instead, Bitlbee should use a combination of ops, half-ops, and voice to indicate who is mobile and who is not. This solves issue #1 but not #2.

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comment:1 Changed at 2009-11-24T01:02:56Z by jasonspiro <jasonspiro4+bitlbee@…>

Even if you use a combination of ops, half-ops, and voice to show who is mobile and who isn't, still, if a buddy is mobile, please also indicate that fact in plaintext in their /whois information to help out BitlBee users who haven't read the documentation. :)

comment:2 Changed at 2010-03-14T01:10:29Z by wilmer

I'm not feeling so happy about using ops/halfops for that. What about showing this in /whois?

comment:3 Changed at 2010-05-12T22:01:29Z by Jason Spiro <jasonspiro4+tagbitlbee@…>

Why not use ops/halfops?

But OK, how about showing it in /whois plus also appending "-m" to the end of their nickname?

comment:4 Changed at 2010-08-21T23:11:39Z by wilmer

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

I went for this approach: A mobile_is_away setting. When enabled, people who are not away but on a mobile phone will have their away state set to "Mobile". Does that make sense?

Implemented for OSCAR, Yahoo! and MSN now (the latter in the msnp13 branch only).

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